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Brand value on the internet

Blog king Robert Scoble recently posted a mildly critical opinion of Live Maps in comparison to Google Maps. That isn't what got my attention though and isn't why I'm posting this. The discussion in the comments section got round to brand value on the internet and Robert stated:

"Brand doesn’t mean *** anymore. It’s who has the best service. Period."

I don't want that to be taken out of context so I must point out that Robert was specifically talking about the value of Microsoft's Windows brand as services and software moves to the internet. 

To be fair, he later retracted it:

"my point about branding was stupid and I retract it. Of course brand means a lot."

 

It got me thinking though. How valuable is a brand on the internet? In recent history Windows has probably been the most well-known brand in our industry and yet Microsoft is losing big-time in the online game. To add fuel to the debate, here is a short synopsis of a conversation I recently had with my fiancé, Helen.

Helen: I know you use all Microsoft's Live stuff all the time but I'll stick with Google thanks.

Me: Why?

Helen: Cos I'm using what I know and its a trusted source. I'm not saying all the stuff from Google's competitors isn't good but I just don't feel the need to go and find out.

Helen isn't a techie-geek like me and I think that puts her in the majority of internet users, hence her opinion here is very valuable. She used the word "trust" in reference to Google and I take that to mean that she trusts the Google brand. That trust is built out of her experiences of Google search and that tallies with the second bit of Robert's comment "It’s who has the best service".

[By the way, Helen isn't completely correct when she says I use Live all the time. For searching I definately prefer to use Google, and I'm a very big user of Flickr. I also use Live Maps, Twitter (now and again) Live Search macros, Helen and I's Live Space, Live Writer... amongst others]

 

So, how valuable IS a brand on the internet? Well if brand were the be all and end all then Youtube wouldn't have come from nothing to become the astounding success story that it currently is. Neither would Flickr or MySpace. Or, to a lesser extent, Twitter. They are all big brands now of course, but they all came from nothing.

There are people that blog on this site that know far more about the value of a brand than I do so hopefully they'll have an opinion around all this. In the meantime, what do you think? What is going to determine who becomes the internet powerhouse(s) in the future? Let me know by leaving a comment.

 

-Jamie

 

UPDATE 2007-04-23: I saw this report: http://software.silicon.com/applications/0,39024653,39166829,00.htm this morning stating that Google has been named as the most powerful brand of 2007. Good timing!!

 

Published 21 April 2007 18:05 by jamie.thomson

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David.Hoehn said:

I would hope that there will be no powerhouse. With the further integration of collaborative  tools and services, I would like to see the users and the communities which make up those users grab a hold of the internet and claim it back. With the increased push for controlling measures, under the convenient cover for more security, it is our duty to claim that freedom back and protect it.

I would guess that whoever manages to allow people to live that freedom, whoever manages to protect that freedom and offer a platform where people can prosper together in their needs and exploits of what they think they need, will be the next one to prevail.  

April 23, 2007 13:25
 

Jim 2.0 said:

In a recent blog post Jamie raised some interesting questions for debate around the value of branding

May 16, 2007 19:43
 

James.Pipe said:

This is a nice prompt for a discussion Jamie, and I'm surprised more people haven't taken a moment to comment on it. This is a topic with a lot of potential for debate, so I have posted my response as a seperate post here:

http://blogs.conchango.com/jamespipe/archive/2007/05/16/Brand-value-on-the-internet-_2D00_-a-response.aspx

Cheers buddy, James

May 16, 2007 19:45
 

Julian said:

I'd be inclined to say that the role of a brand hasn't changed fundamentally. Essentially a brand can be seen as a package of material (logos, straplines, etc) representing a 'likely type of experience' in the brand consumer's mind, and results in brand consumer qualities such as inertia, representing the amount of effort required to change the view on likely experience, and so forth.

The interesting bit though is what has changed fundamentally -- the communication channel people use to evaluate a brand. Now, customers learn a lot about a brand through user-generated content mechanisms such as blogs, wikis, and online discussion forums. Such things have existed for many, many years but only in recent years have they been pervasive enough to make a difference in the mainstream. Mainstream customer online literacy has also hit a tipping point as well -- the two combined have set the scene for 'branding in a web 2.0 world'...

May 20, 2007 09:22
 

SSIS Junkie said:

Google have created quite a stir with their Google Maps for Mobile tool (my colleague Keni Barwick has

June 26, 2007 06:17

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